How is the Science of Reading connected to the Science of Learning? Join hosts Dylan Wiliam, Doug Lemov, and Natalie Wexler as they delve into the links between the two, both in theory and practice, in Season 3 of the Knowledge Matters Podcast. Across six 30-minute episodes, we’ll explore how long-term memory shapes reading comprehension, why reading whole books is better than excerpts on a screen, and how teaching students to write clearly can help them think more clearly, in conversation with researchers and teachers.
“We want our students to remember. That’s the goal!”

This podcast is produced by the Knowledge Matters Campaign and StandardsWork. Follow the Knowledge Matters Campaign on Twitter, Instagram and Facebook. Search #knowledgematters to join the conversation.
Additional resources:
- Dylan Wiliam – Developing Curriculum for Deep Thinking: The Knowledge Revival
- Doug Lemov – The Teach Like a Champion Guide to the Science of Reading
- Natalie Wexler – Beyond the Science of Reading
Production by Tressa Versteeg. Original music and sound engineering by Aidan Shea.